Dimitris Makrygiannakis talks with Dominik Pegler

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Hi Dominik. Who are you, besides photography?

Hello Dimitris! I was born in 1982 in Vienna. Most of the times you can find me somewhere in the Eastern corner of Austria. That's roughly where I grew up and where I am still living now. I moved from the village to the city of Vienna seventeen years ago. I am interested in many different things and I appreciate all kinds of human output.

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How do you personally define human output and how do you relate it to your photography?

Human output, that can be anything, a sentence, a house, a gesture, or a dropped piece of paper with a few notes on it. Something that seems to be a small part of some story. If something "speaks" to me, I try to take a picture of it. On the other hand, it is also a pleasant fact that not everything can be photographed.

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What can you not photograph, but would love to?

I am glad that these things cannot be photographed and that something always remains hidden, demanding you to put the pieces together and fill in the gaps. I am satisfied with what I have, I don't need more and that is already overwhelming enough. On the other hand, there are also things that are not generally inaccessible, but for which I myself have limits. In the past I often thought that I needed to photograph more people, be closer to them. Often this was not possible due to certain inhibitions and led then to frustration. This over-preoccupation with my own personal limits meant that I did not see many other wonderful things "in my own garden". Today I can accept boundaries better, also because I know that they will change over time. To answer the question, there is nothing that I would like to photograph but am unable to do.

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Is there any connection between your boundaries in photography and in life outside photography? Or are they two separated worlds in that sense?

These are of course the same things and cannot be decoupled from each other. Taking photos is embedded in life, feeds off life and is sometimes even a motive or pretext for living or experiencing. At least I feel that way. What should perhaps be noted in relation to our own limits is that the camera is often or mostly directed inwards like a magnifying glass and makes us more aware of so many things inside.

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Did this inner awareness through photography come early in your photographic life? How long have you been shooting?

Mmm ... it took a while. I started taking photos 13 years ago; Back then I had very precise ideas about how the photos should look like and that was technically perfect and polished images -- entirely without emotion and without personal reference. I was more concerned with the technology than with the content. It was only
logical that my interest soon faded. I had a restart 6 years ago, this time I was only interested in the content. The first 1.5 years of my second photographic phase were difficult. Even if the intentions were different this time, the approach remained largely the same: finished images were already in my head even before I went to take pictures. That blocked me every time and I had to force myself to pull the shutter, even when I didn't see anything interesting.

After 1.5 years I had found a way to take this pressure off myself. I decided to stop doing "serious" photography (that's what I said to myself) for a while, got myself a small analog camera that I always carried in my pocket. Due to the limitations that come with the medium of analogue film I was forced to shoot carefully and not waste film -- so compared to before it was the exact opposite. That changed everything. Since then I have been taking photos completely without pressure and I no longer take myself too seriously. So what happened? The lesson for me was, that creative photography, like many other things in life, is not dominated by top-down processes, but rather by bottom-up processes. So what happened to me at this stage was that I learned to listen to my feelings, to shift the focus to the stimuli outside and away from the things that were sketched out in my head.

This went hand in hand with the fact that I generally became more aware of my feelings. Because I used them for photography. The head is then only the endpoint of the process chain, not the beginning. It then triggers the thought "Mhm, and that looks interesting!" And sets the motor skills in motion so that I can take the photo.

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Seems that you feel an inner comfort regarding photography, which I think is a great achievement. If you can think of yourself in 20 years from now, what else do you wish to have achieved through photography?

Hopefully in 20 years I will have captured many memories from my life in pictures. That would give me a lot of material to think about what kind of meaning it all had. It would be a shame if there were gaps for years to come. I don't think this will ever happen again, but life is unpredictable.

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Will this material be mostly for you personal pleasure? How important does it feel for you communicating your work to the photographic community? You post your work in social media, but will this be enough for you in 20 years? Isn't a book a better way of communicating the photographer's work and soul? And is one or more books something you want?'

Mainly for me personally, but pictures are not an end in themselves and it would be a shame not to share them. I owe a lot of inspiration to the photographic community. When I entered the hidden corners of flickr 5--6 years ago ... what I found there was a sensation. It is still the case today that I am incredibly excited about a good photo of someone else, as if I discovered it on my own memory card. That's why I see myself as part of this community and share my pictures online. Communicating through photography has always been a basic motivation for me. The idea for a real book will surely find me one day and then I'll think about it more intensively. I'm currently working on two books on subjects related to people around me - each limited to 1 piece. This is a good opportunity to practice.

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If you were sent to a remote island for a month, with just a camera and 3 photo books to keep you company and inspire you, which ones would these photo books be?

That would probably be "Evokativ" by Libuše Jarcovjáková, "On the sixth day" by Alessandra Sanguinetti and "Democratic Forest" by Eggleston. The latter because a month can be a long time.

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And if you had a chance to spend a day shooting with a photographer you admire, who would that photographer be? And why?

Interesting question. Actually, I don't feel that much desire there, but a walk and a conversation with Alec Soth or Stephen Shore would certainly be interesting. Not only because they are great photographers, but also because I can relate to their thoughts; to Soth and his human-centered approach, his encouragement to starting new things and becoming a beginner again, and on the other hand to Shore's way of seeing photography partly as a form of problem-solving.

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Thank you for an interesting interview Dominik. Was a pleasure.

Thank you for the talk and hopefully see you someday on the street again.

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Rammy Narula talks with Lorenzo Catena

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Who are you? Tell us a bit about yourself.

Hello! My name’s Lorenzo Catena, I’m an Italian architect and photographer, and I live and work in my hometown, Rome. I’ve a background in architecture and this shaped my vision and the way I think when it comes to photography. At the moment I’ve decided to also focus my efforts in other fields that could help me move towards a better lifestyle and also more time to dedicate to my passion, which is street photography.

What was the trigger or inspiration that led to your taking up photography?

This is funny because actually there is a very specific moment in my life when I’ve decided that I wanted to start taking photography seriously. It was in early 2016 during an architectural shooting in Bologna, Italy where I assisted all day a very talented photographer: Simone Bossi. The trigger was when I saw his final pictures from the shot: the photos were beautiful and metaphysical. Since that time, I’ve begun to bring with me a very old and outdated compact camera every day, shooting architectural subjects during my lunchbreak. Some months later, I realized that architectural photography was boring me, and my appetite towards knowledge and this new media brought me to study the masters of photography on the internet and in various books. Maybe that period was the happiest part of my life as a photographer because I was constantly inspired by EVERYTHING.

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What do you hope to communicate or describe with your work?

At the beginning I thought that I was attracted simply to the beauty of everyday life and colour, trying to re-discover my surroundings and give a new meaning to what I’d thought was boring or obvious. Now I can tell that is not only that: I want to communicate how I feel and how I perceive my surroundings. I know that I’m moved by certain moods like nostalgia and mystery, but sometimes I want to simply freeze for a moment the things that surprised me. Basically I want to discover with photography what I don’t know yet - with my own vision - and am overwhelmed by it.

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Has your relationship with photography changed over time, and if so how?

I spent three and a half years simply taking pictures of situations and places where I was without thinking at my work as a whole. Now I’m working with my body of work to understand the stories that I’ve witnessed, finding a meaning - if any - and editing them. Nowadays I’m also working on long-term projects to develop with time and dedication.

Please select some of your photos and talk about how they came to be and how they reflect your working methods.

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I took this photo on a remote island in Thailand. This is currently one of the last pictures I took in 2020 because once I came back in Italy the government of my country immediately started a very strong lockdown to prevent the spreading of the COVID-19, so after that I was not able to take pictures as I’d wanted.

I think this picture is quite new to my work because, other than some compositional playfulness and illusion (the coastline seems parallel to the palm’s trunk and the arms and legs of the girl are recalling the bent of the final part of the palm tree), it also features calm and serenity. This picture is very important to me because it came in a period of my life when I was able to make clear choices for my work and lifestyle, and I was very relaxed - thank you for this, Thailand!

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This image was taken during the summer of 2019 in Tuscany, and it’s part of a series of photos that are the result of an unplanned narration of the slow and relaxed life that belongs to this maritime landscape. Sometimes these elements collide and converse together with the temporary inhabitants of these places. I seek simplicity through the interaction between many elements inside the single frame, and I think that’s clearly visible in this picture.

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This photo was taken in the autumn of 2018 on a train heading to Tokyo. I became interested in the outfit of the two workers waiting between two coaches, and I noticed the beautiful light and also the echo between the gold of their clothes and the golden details of the doors. In this picture, I like the expression of the worker - lost in his thoughts - and also the fact that you can see clearly the shadow of the face (dark) and also a (light) face in the illuminated part behind the main protagonist of the photo.

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I took this photo during the opening minutes of an event in Rome. I think this was one of the comfiest situations I’ve ever photographed. I was seated in an armchair the whole time I was shooting, taking pictures of the people entering the room from two sides - trying to connect them. I have plenty of other characters entering the room, but this one caught my eye because to me it’s like a demon and is adding some mystery to the story together with the cold and warm light sources.

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I took this picture in London after I won the LSPF (London Category) in 2018. The first thing I noticed was the pink building, and so I moved toward it, but then I noticed a couple hugging in a very romantic and deep way, and I wanted to include these emotions in the frame as well as connecting them visually with the pink wall in the background. This photo is important to me for many reasons, but especially because I think that with this picture I’ve brought my approach to the next level. For a period of time I used the flash to reveal what was in the shadow, and by doing so, I started to play with natural and artificial light sources in the same frame, adding more complexity and layers.

Rammy Narula talks with Enamul Kabir

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Who are You? Tell us a bit about yourself. 

I am Md. Enamul Kabir from Bangladesh. I was born in the district of Narail, then grew up in a town called Kotchandpur, Jhinadah. It’s a small but beautiful town. Now I live and work in the capital city: Dhaka.

I wish I could leave my job and travel around the world. But you will not get everything that you wish for in one life. I believe it is very important to become a good human-being rather than attaining greatness as a photographer.

What was the trigger, or inspiration, that led to your taking up photography?

Never did I imagined that I’d be walking around with a camera, stopping at irregular intervals, snapping photos left and right. I never had any interest in photography.

At the end of 2012, I was unemployed and struggling to find a job. The local photography club used to make quite a lot of field trips. I’d tag along, visiting different places, mostly to kill time. I was actually hoping someone would take a good portrait of me that I could use that on my FB profile.

One fine evening on such a photo-walk, I took a snap with my phone, just for fun. The scene was so serene and beautiful that it grabbed my senses by the balls. Dr. Asim Saha, one of the nicest human beings I ever met, kept motivating me to take photos. Later, I met a photographer named Imtiaz Alam Beg, whose words inspired me to get behind the lens. Now, I can’t take my eye off the viewfinder, it seems.

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What do you hope to communicate or describe with your work?

Truly speaking, I do not have any plans. Uniqueness is often referred to as style, which is something that comes naturally and cannot be forced. In photography, it is a personal statement. It is how one sees the world.

I enjoy taking photos. I go everywhere and shoot everything, from people to animals. A photograph can happen anywhere at any given moment. Sometimes it depends on my mood. I prefer the tranquillity of silence to crowded places.

I don’t allow the editor in my head to take the lead and instead let the photographer in me instinctively ‘feel’ the frame to freeze. It has been almost five years since I started shooting, and I still feel like a child who doesn’t know much about the world and find it an exciting place. 

I prefer my photos to be concise and cohesive. I try to achieve the best result possible with fewer subjects. You can call it a minimalist approach, although my photos usually aren’t minimalistic in the traditional sense. It is a practice of aligning and arranging the subjects and elements, instinctively, to arrive at a visual harmony.

I feel the urge to keep on learning and grow as a photographer. Good friends like Rammy Narula, Indrajit Khambe and many more around the world have helped me along the way by exchanging our views and thoughts on photography.

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Has your relationship with photography changed over time, and if so, how?

Yes, it has changed. Like a child who keeps falling down yet stands up every time and learns how to walk, then run, swim, and ride a bike, my horizons have broadened over time. I began as a street photographer hunting for form and moments in individual images, then started working on specific themes and motifs. I like various types of photography, yet unposed candid moments are closer to my heart.

 Please select 5 of your photos and talk about how they came to be and how they reflect your working methods.

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During the Chobimela festival of 2017, I noticed Dougie Wallace was moving around here, and without any hesitation I approached him for an artist talk under the banner of the Insight Collective, of which I was one of the founding members. During his talk, I learnt how to get really close to any animal. One evening, I was shooting at Beauty Boarding in Old Dhaka, one of the oldest gathering places of Bangladeshi artists. I noticed these two dogs. They were so adorable that I just could not resist myself to play with them. After a few minutes, they forgot about me, and I start shooting them from at a very close distance. I took 60+ photos and finally chose this one in the edit, which to me represents love and anger. 

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I like intense weirdness. It was Eid time. Most Dhaka residents leave the city during the Eid vacation to celebrate with loved ones at their respective hometowns. Due to such a rush, a lot of the passengers travel on the rooftops of the trains. If one is lucky enough to get a seat reserved, it is an ordeal to reach the seat. This gentleman was waiting to enter the train, but couldn’t get to the door. I had my full camera gear on me, topped with the flash setup. He looked at me. I turned aside so that he can could feel comfortable with what he wanted to do. Suddenly, I turned around and started shooting. Sometimes, backs are not boring 😉. 

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I was visiting an animal shelter in Naraynganj, a port city close to Dhaka, to interview the owner of the shelter. More than 40+ cats and 10+ dogs live there. Unfortunately, she was not there on that day, but I thought I should at least visit the place. I was moving around the house and entered her bedroom. The paintings, stickers, old photographs on the wall all attracted me. So, I was trying to take a photo of the wall to portray the place. Suddenly, the cat jumped from the top of the Almira, it was beyond my imagination. Each time I see this image, it reminds me of the photo of Dali. 

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A good photo can happen anywhere, any time. You just need to feel it, see the photo coming and be ready to take the photo. I was traveling to a place called Kankavli in India with one of my very good friends, Indrajit Khambe. I love traveling through India. Kankavli is one of my most favorite places where I want to go again and again just to take in the fragrance of the grass, to enjoy the beauty of moonlight, and to hear the roar of the running water. Indrajit, Nitin, Abhijeet and I went swimming at the river. I was hesitant to get in the water as I don’t know how to swim. All on a sudden, Indrajit dove in. I ran to take the photo. This is one of my favorite photos as it reminds me of the place and shows the coexistence between humans and nature. 

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I was heading out of Kankavli with my friends. We stopped for a break at Vengurla. Indrajit was buying fish for his family. We noticed the elephant beside the sea and start shooting. I probably took 35 photos there but was left unsatisfied, so, I left the place and started enjoying the sea view. Suddenly, I noticed the woman standing alone. I practically jumped in joy and started working the scene. I cannot explain it in details, but this image looks like a poem to me.